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Thursday, 25 February 2021

Documentary: Reading

 Heehs, P. (1994) Myth, History and Theory, Volume 33, No.1. Wesleyan: Wiley

https://drive.google.com/file/d/136Fb2SMwHCLtqCF85KOJfxejpdTYv_R-/view?usp=sharing


  • Historians usually work to try to disprove all elements of myth from historical records - any element where myth may have been used to prove or drive an element of history.
  • Mythologists don't believe that history can explain everything about the past without mythology and its narrations
  • 'Those who study the data of one field tend to look down on or exclude those of the other'
  • Where mythology can be used to support and even sometimes explain history is called mythistory. 
  • 'there can be no real distinction between the discourses of myth and history, between fact and fiction'
  • In religious based historiography, people have started to use 'myth' as a way to describe false facts, as they are what has been disproven and removed from history
  • 'mythos' means decisiveness and 'final pronouncement' what gets carried throughout history, the final rendition/final story. Myth is sometimes the most known story and the best way for facts of history to be told creatively so that it's remembered
  • McNeill who studies scientific history judges his findings on assumptions, made up beliefs that drive his hypothesis which are based on the same logics as myths.
  • Truth vs truths vs myth
    • Truth is the facts: The history of Greece and its subjects, what is written down and what he can see. These gods were depicted on vases
    • truths are that we weren't alive in ancient Greece. We don't know what we heard or saw, the gods could come from imagination but who can say they weren't? 
    • myth, stories and interpretations of reality told in stories. They twist the past to make it understandable in a narrative
  • history is based on the adequacy of facts - people can and do argue that history is as much as a myth. If we cannot take drawing depictions of gods as facts, why should we take words for fact? sometimes logos and mythos can be clearly seperated

HISTORY (2009/2021) Greek Mythology. Available at: https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-history/greek-mythology (Accesed: 25 February 2021).

  • Greece didn't have a single religion that they followed like the bible. 
  • Mythology was able to answer the questions of how the earth came to be for people who didn't follow, or answer questions that hadn't been answered yet, like the weather. 
  • Myths also described the current political and economical system such as social standing, which is why chariot races were heavily based on Ares, God of War. 
  • The history of Greece was slowly manipulated and extended on through many scriptures, and eventually took to plays and art forms, which are now shown in architecture. 
  • All of the gods were said to be at the top of Mount Olympus, which is very real and can obviously be seen without all of the gods living atop of it in the clouds. 
  • Another event is the Trojan War, which sits in the balance between history and fiction. It's very hard to prove real or not
    • All of the main characters seem to be heavily based  on the Olympic gods
    • Troy has been proven as a real city, though the mound the gods were said to fight on seems inhabited for over 4000 years. 3000 BC, and the origin of Greek myth is set to be 900BC, placing it in the middle of this abandoned period
    • Skeletons and debris were found at the site of Troy, evidence of a war. 

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